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		<title>By: Marisa Greig</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Jun 2009 04:35:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I think that cpf should give the singers their money because they worked hard ror their money expicaly mrs.fay-ann lyons alvares]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think that cpf should give the singers their money because they worked hard ror their money expicaly mrs.fay-ann lyons alvares</p>
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		<title>By: TriniSoca.com</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Mar 2009 04:27:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;big&gt;&lt;b&gt;$oca squabble unresolved&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/big&gt;

&lt;i&gt;By Onika James 
Thursday, March 26 2009
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THE Caribbean Prestige Foundation (CPF) yesterday accused soca stars Ian &quot;Bunji Garlin&quot; Alvarez and his wife Fay-Ann Lyons-Alverez of &quot;making inaccurate and disparaging comments about CPF, both locally and abroad.&quot;

In a media statement, CPF Executive President Gregory Fernandez said: &quot;Following the prize-giving function on March 20, we had discussions with Fay-Ann Lyons-Alvarez and Ian Alvarez and we all decided to meet early this week, to resolve the matter.&quot;

However, he said, the couple chose to go the press with what he termed &quot;inaccurate&quot; and &quot;disparaging&quot; comments.

Fernandez recalled that the contention arose when Lyons-Alvarez, who won both the Groovy and Soca Monarch titles learnt she would be required to pay five percent of her winnings for administration fees. She refused and deemed it &quot;unfair&quot;. Fernandez said the clause was part of a contract signed by 16 of the 23 artistes, before the show.

Yesterday, he declared, &quot;clauses containing these deductions were included in the 2008 and 2009 contracts. All artistes or their management were made aware, and given the contract on the day of the draw for positions at the finals.&quot;

Sixteen of the 23 artistes who participated signed, with another two who were abroad, confirming that they will sign. In 2008 these deductions were agreed to and paid from the artistes&#039; purse, including Ian Alvarez, and Fay-Ann Lyons-Alvarez,&quot; he said.

However, in an almost immediate response, Ian Pantin, the Alvarez&#039; manager expressed disgust at the situation. &quot;This statement by Mr Fernandez is misleading and disingenuous to say the least. The problem is that it tells only half the story and everyone knows half the story is much more dangerous than a lie.&quot; Pantin admitted his clients were presented with contracts containing the clause agreeing to the five percent deduction of prize money shortly before the show was to go on, and when they had basically given their verbal commitment to perform. We objected strongly to that kind of negotiating strategy and refused to sign the contract but, agreed orally to do the show on the originally agreed terms and conditions that did not include any deduction from prize money,&quot; Pantin added.

&quot;Further,&quot; Pantin stated, &quot;while it is true we agreed to this type of deduction last year, we did so again after the fact, and on the oral understanding that this was a &quot;one-off&quot; deal, and that it would never happen again. Frankly, we feel used and abused.&quot;

Pantin confirmed that his clients and the CPF will meet today, to once again try and &quot;iron out the situation&quot;.

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><big><b>$oca squabble unresolved</b></big></p>
<p><i>By Onika James<br />
Thursday, March 26 2009<br />
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<p>THE Caribbean Prestige Foundation (CPF) yesterday accused soca stars Ian &#8220;Bunji Garlin&#8221; Alvarez and his wife Fay-Ann Lyons-Alverez of &#8220;making inaccurate and disparaging comments about CPF, both locally and abroad.&#8221;</p>
<p>In a media statement, CPF Executive President Gregory Fernandez said: &#8220;Following the prize-giving function on March 20, we had discussions with Fay-Ann Lyons-Alvarez and Ian Alvarez and we all decided to meet early this week, to resolve the matter.&#8221;</p>
<p>However, he said, the couple chose to go the press with what he termed &#8220;inaccurate&#8221; and &#8220;disparaging&#8221; comments.</p>
<p>Fernandez recalled that the contention arose when Lyons-Alvarez, who won both the Groovy and Soca Monarch titles learnt she would be required to pay five percent of her winnings for administration fees. She refused and deemed it &#8220;unfair&#8221;. Fernandez said the clause was part of a contract signed by 16 of the 23 artistes, before the show.</p>
<p>Yesterday, he declared, &#8220;clauses containing these deductions were included in the 2008 and 2009 contracts. All artistes or their management were made aware, and given the contract on the day of the draw for positions at the finals.&#8221;</p>
<p>Sixteen of the 23 artistes who participated signed, with another two who were abroad, confirming that they will sign. In 2008 these deductions were agreed to and paid from the artistes&#8217; purse, including Ian Alvarez, and Fay-Ann Lyons-Alvarez,&#8221; he said.</p>
<p>However, in an almost immediate response, Ian Pantin, the Alvarez&#8217; manager expressed disgust at the situation. &#8220;This statement by Mr Fernandez is misleading and disingenuous to say the least. The problem is that it tells only half the story and everyone knows half the story is much more dangerous than a lie.&#8221; Pantin admitted his clients were presented with contracts containing the clause agreeing to the five percent deduction of prize money shortly before the show was to go on, and when they had basically given their verbal commitment to perform. We objected strongly to that kind of negotiating strategy and refused to sign the contract but, agreed orally to do the show on the originally agreed terms and conditions that did not include any deduction from prize money,&#8221; Pantin added.</p>
<p>&#8220;Further,&#8221; Pantin stated, &#8220;while it is true we agreed to this type of deduction last year, we did so again after the fact, and on the oral understanding that this was a &#8220;one-off&#8221; deal, and that it would never happen again. Frankly, we feel used and abused.&#8221;</p>
<p>Pantin confirmed that his clients and the CPF will meet today, to once again try and &#8220;iron out the situation&#8221;.</p>
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		<title>By: c fonrose</title>
		<link>http://www.trinisoca.com/blog/?p=263&#038;cpage=1#comment-4596</link>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Mar 2009 23:53:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I think that people must learn to be truthfull and honest, if the artiste was not informed properly of the agreement and worse yet never signed an agreement, please by right give them their full amount of moneys.  I think it&#039;s greed on the part of the promoters, and also they must be think it&#039;s to much money to give to one person(fay-ann), but she worked for it so give it to her and the others please.  And act like professionals and exercise and plan properly.Trinidadians like to much after the fact laws]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think that people must learn to be truthfull and honest, if the artiste was not informed properly of the agreement and worse yet never signed an agreement, please by right give them their full amount of moneys.  I think it&#8217;s greed on the part of the promoters, and also they must be think it&#8217;s to much money to give to one person(fay-ann), but she worked for it so give it to her and the others please.  And act like professionals and exercise and plan properly.Trinidadians like to much after the fact laws</p>
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		<title>By: s best</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Mar 2009 21:25:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I think that if there should be a 5% cut, there should be a contract read and signed before they enter the compitition, so it would of been up to the artists to enter or not and there would not of  been any misunderstanding now... If they the artists knew about the 5% before then come on stand up and give up your 5%.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think that if there should be a 5% cut, there should be a contract read and signed before they enter the compitition, so it would of been up to the artists to enter or not and there would not of  been any misunderstanding now&#8230; If they the artists knew about the 5% before then come on stand up and give up your 5%.</p>
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		<title>By: Heru</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Mar 2009 14:34:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Here is what: I always suspected that Super Blue and other artistes never got their prize-winnings as advertised. Knowing Super Blue&#039;s condition of drug addiction at the time, William Munro may not have paid him the advertised prize money the six or seven times that he won. I am speculating here, and I could very well be wrong, but I always felt he gave Super Blue some money to tie him over before the shows and then arranged for him to collect a substantially smaller figure at prize-giving. 

It is quite possible that even Iwer made the deal to split the prize-money as a way of securing victory and boosting his standing. That is one way that his support of Munro and the CPF&#039;s decision to take a percentage of Soca artistes&#039; prize-earnings could be explained. I do not believe that Munro would just let prize-winners go with those huge cash prizes.  It was all too easy to set up. 

It is quite possible that the show is becoming more and more difficult to rig as they cannot keep picking the same winners over and over, especially when the public can clearly see other artists giving better performances. It is difficult to trust many artistes to be part of the fix -- to split prize-money for victories -- so Munro could be trying to establish another way to get a cut of the prize-money which is largely sponsored by the government. 

Some people are claiming that Pan Trinbago and TUCO take a percentage of the winnings from their shows. But firstly, the people who enter those shows know of this up front and choose to enter under that condition. And secondly, and more importantly, those bodies are like unions that represent artistes in their organizations, so the percentage cut is like a form of union dues (although I find that to be distasteful too). 

The artistes who disagree with the cut in their winnings should get legal advice and let the courts decide. The government also has to explain why it is investing so much money in these private business shows, especially as they appear to be making money.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here is what: I always suspected that Super Blue and other artistes never got their prize-winnings as advertised. Knowing Super Blue&#8217;s condition of drug addiction at the time, William Munro may not have paid him the advertised prize money the six or seven times that he won. I am speculating here, and I could very well be wrong, but I always felt he gave Super Blue some money to tie him over before the shows and then arranged for him to collect a substantially smaller figure at prize-giving. </p>
<p>It is quite possible that even Iwer made the deal to split the prize-money as a way of securing victory and boosting his standing. That is one way that his support of Munro and the CPF&#8217;s decision to take a percentage of Soca artistes&#8217; prize-earnings could be explained. I do not believe that Munro would just let prize-winners go with those huge cash prizes.  It was all too easy to set up. </p>
<p>It is quite possible that the show is becoming more and more difficult to rig as they cannot keep picking the same winners over and over, especially when the public can clearly see other artists giving better performances. It is difficult to trust many artistes to be part of the fix &#8212; to split prize-money for victories &#8212; so Munro could be trying to establish another way to get a cut of the prize-money which is largely sponsored by the government. </p>
<p>Some people are claiming that Pan Trinbago and TUCO take a percentage of the winnings from their shows. But firstly, the people who enter those shows know of this up front and choose to enter under that condition. And secondly, and more importantly, those bodies are like unions that represent artistes in their organizations, so the percentage cut is like a form of union dues (although I find that to be distasteful too). </p>
<p>The artistes who disagree with the cut in their winnings should get legal advice and let the courts decide. The government also has to explain why it is investing so much money in these private business shows, especially as they appear to be making money.</p>
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		<title>By: TriniSoca.com</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Mar 2009 13:21:05 +0000</pubDate>
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William Munro, chairman of CPF and Iwer George&lt;/div&gt;

&lt;a href=&quot;http://guardian.co.tt/news/general/2009/03/22/soca-fraternity-uproar-over-earnings&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Soca fraternity in uproar over earnings&lt;/a&gt;
Caribbean Prestige Foundation for the Performing Arts (CPF) is today holding the nation&#039;s soca artistes who performed in its Carnival 2009 competitions to ransom, by withholding their cash prizes until they sign over a percentage to the organisation.

&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.newsday.co.tt/news/0,97104.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Once again, no money for Fay-Ann&lt;/a&gt;
Reigning Power Soca Monarch and Groovy Soca Monarch Queen, Fay-Ann Lyons-Alvarez has not received her winnings. Controversy has arisen with the awarding of prize money, this time not only to the winner but to those who placed in the competition.]]></description>
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William Munro, chairman of CPF and Iwer George</div>
<p><a href="http://guardian.co.tt/news/general/2009/03/22/soca-fraternity-uproar-over-earnings" rel="nofollow">Soca fraternity in uproar over earnings</a><br />
Caribbean Prestige Foundation for the Performing Arts (CPF) is today holding the nation&#8217;s soca artistes who performed in its Carnival 2009 competitions to ransom, by withholding their cash prizes until they sign over a percentage to the organisation.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.newsday.co.tt/news/0,97104.html" rel="nofollow">Once again, no money for Fay-Ann</a><br />
Reigning Power Soca Monarch and Groovy Soca Monarch Queen, Fay-Ann Lyons-Alvarez has not received her winnings. Controversy has arisen with the awarding of prize money, this time not only to the winner but to those who placed in the competition.</p>
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		<title>By: TriniSoca.com</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Mar 2009 05:49:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;big&gt;&lt;b&gt;&#039;CPF betrayed soca artistes&#039;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/big&gt;

&lt;b&gt;... Fay-Ann chides Munro&lt;/b&gt;
Ian Pantin, manager of soca artistes Bunji Garlin, Fay-Ann Lyons and Hunter, said yesterday that the performers felt betrayed and hoodwinked by the Caribbean Prestige Foundation, producer of the International Soca Monarch Competition. 

They did not get the anticipated cheques for their winnings from the 2009 edition of the competition. 

When they opened the envelopes presented to them on Friday night, the artistes saw letters from CPF signed by its executive president Gregory Fernandez. 
&lt;i&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.trinidadexpress.com/index.pl/article_news?id=161455898&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Full Article : trinidadexpress.com&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/i&gt;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><big><b>&#8216;CPF betrayed soca artistes&#8217;</b></big></p>
<p><b>&#8230; Fay-Ann chides Munro</b><br />
Ian Pantin, manager of soca artistes Bunji Garlin, Fay-Ann Lyons and Hunter, said yesterday that the performers felt betrayed and hoodwinked by the Caribbean Prestige Foundation, producer of the International Soca Monarch Competition. </p>
<p>They did not get the anticipated cheques for their winnings from the 2009 edition of the competition. </p>
<p>When they opened the envelopes presented to them on Friday night, the artistes saw letters from CPF signed by its executive president Gregory Fernandez.<br />
<i><b><a href="http://www.trinidadexpress.com/index.pl/article_news?id=161455898" rel="nofollow">Full Article : trinidadexpress.com</a></b></i></p>
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